Guts was Griffiths slave, after guts lost his first fight to him be owed Griffith his life because Griffith spared him. Apparently, there is a time dimension that one of the five God hand can open up. Becoming an apostle did NOTHING for Ganishka. >no he didn'-Yes he did. There would be some way around the typical sacrifice. His ultimate sacrifice is leaving Casca behind. He clearly isn't a normal human so he may be able to change. The Berserker armors helmet latches onto Guts' head and then it's crotch region starts to glow. And it was no different for Ganishka even after he turned himself into a tremendous monstrosity; he was still enthralled by Griffith, and Griffith was still able to tame him with mere presence alone. This meant that he had to sacrifice one of his arms. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. There are plenty of things being set up that could potentially serve as means for defeating the God Hand. Soon Guts reached the secret passageways to the Count's castle where he was met with yet another ambush by Zondark and managed to kill him for good, though he sustained blood loss from an attack to the head. That attempt failed tragically and Guts was pinned down again, only the apostles did so more roughly and punctured … As regards to who will join this Army, is the question. I think Griffith using the Ganishka/Sword of Actuality thing to remake the world as a shortcut to having his kingdom Falconia is going to end up being the thing that potentially causes his downfall. Griffith finds he can't kill Guts due to the infant's attachment he has to him and spares him. What if Guts is like Griffith in the sense that he wouldn't become an apostle rather and entity equal to the God hand. They realize what this strange power is. Notable Victories: Nightmare(Soul Calibur is not the only thing that can destroy Soul Edge).. Wolverine (Guts wins at least 2 or 3 of the 4 rounds, possibly knocking out Wolverine for a win, or killing him with the Dragonslayer because it damages the soul, however he might have to strike the heart or brain to kill, and striking the brain might be impossible with the Dragonslayer). Still, he's formidable on his own and can take on mid-tier DC threats with his magical mace and tactical advantage. Miura already stated he doesnt think he can let such a grim story have such a grim ending.. whether this means happily ever after idk.. i think guts and griffith will both die..i think if casca dies.. guts is for sure a dead man.. The Moonlight Child, the Dragonslayer, barytes, Skull Knight’s Beherit Sword, true names, and even Puck’s beherit if he decided to go that route. Gods of Earth). He clearly isn't a normal human so he may be able to change. during the black swordsman arc he was so revenge-driven he may have erred, but his character development over the last two arcs have had him replete whatever aspects he may have cut off during that time. Feb 15, 2014 #32 Zehahaha Registered User MH中毒 … If the theory that pre-existing God Hand members get replaced by newer members every 216 years is true, then how come there were only 4 of them when Griffith was recruited instead of 5? A short explanation of the situation and the Crimson Behelit follows I would be disappointed if he ever did. The God Hand are summoned. Sadly, against Guts, he's going to need more than reincarnated abilities and heritage. unless the berserk armor can be "upgraded" to not incapacitate Guts, then i don't see it happening. The simplist answer is an Army, Guts needs an Army, although he won't lead that Army. The Moonlight Child, the Dragonslayer, barytes, Skull Knight’s Beherit Sword, true names, and even Puck’s beherit if he decided to go that route. So unless humanity wants to suffer a Genghis Khan-like conquest they have to unite under a single banner, putting aside past enmities, or face extinction. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Making a sacrifice and becoming an apostle is also completely against everything Guts stands for. In doing so, Guts had to break free from the grasp of the demons or apostles holding him down. Lets say that at the end of Berserk manga Gits defeats the God Hand amd IoE and then GEOM shows up and reveals Berserk world is just one of planets in 40k galaxy, God Hand are forcrs of Chaos and Guts is one of Emperot's lost sons. If the Skull Knight can barely lay a finger on them how will Guts and his crew do it. There's no other way to beat them. it's akin to being in bondage to your impervious oppressor hoping to slay them. A short explanation of the situation and the Crimson Behelit follows Shierke showed us a few, and Guts could fight with the aid of these magical beings instead. I don't think Guts will ever fight a godhand in equal foot, he's a human, strongest human ever, pumped with some magic, sure, but he's a human. There are plenty of things being set up that could potentially serve as means for defeating the God Hand. Guts briefly glimpsed again into his similar past with the God Hand's atrocities toward his comrades and lover and declared to the hateful victim that he won't fail the way he did. You have to consider the order of events here: 1) The Hawks face the God Hand members. Guts will live the rest of his life with the reputation as the man who doomed the world and killed God, never getting the proper recognition he deserves. I agree. The God Hand can be killed, and Skull Knight has killed at least one of them, so I'm sure he'll teach Guts how. Guts has gathered many allies along the way and has impacted many lives. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. They realize what this strange power is. What if Guts is like Griffith in the sense that he wouldn't become an apostle rather and entity equal to the God hand. He has what he wants finally, after all this time, and it will be what destroys him. He has the beast of darkness within him and he was born from a corpse. i mean Guts is just a human and they’re all pretty much gods, and i don’t see even the berserker armor really able to do anything else. Guts will live the rest of his life with the reputation as the man who doomed the world and killed God, never getting the proper recognition he deserves. So you know in the guardians of desire chapters when we're first introduced to the god hand and guts is climbing up the steps, bringing his sword down before its stopped by causality. You have to consider the order of events here: 1) The Hawks face the God Hand members. anyone who ever suggests this theory, that guts uses the behelit to combat the same demonic forces he would become thrall to has limited to little understanding of the berserk universe, let alone guts' character. do not lose sight of that. The same thing sort of happens in the eclipse right after guts cuts his own hand off. Then we'll have an arc where they gather magical beings and humans for a war against Falconia or something. if it didn’t like harm Guts he would still die cause the godhand are stupid op, unless i’m hyping them up too much. All of them were originally humans who were chosen by the Idea of Evil to serve its purpose of giving reason for humanity's suffering. While it was not innately magical, Guts' sword, the Dragonslayer, was recently shown to have become a cursed blade after bathed in the blood of so many apostles, even a member of the God Hand; which made it more efficient against creatures of a non-corporeal or astral nature and even possibly kill, or at least, seriously injure members of the God Hand. God Hand (ゴッドハンド, Goddo Hando?) Declaring that as the Raiders Captain he must raid the enemy camp, Guts set foot … In this four part event, we discuss the four ways in which we think Guts will be able to defeat the God Hand. There's something special about the Black Swordsman as he has proven many times. I don't want Griffith to be redeemed buuuuuuut that scenario gave me an amusing mental image of a Berserk version of THAT scene from Last Jedi, with Griffith as Kylo, Guts as Rey, and Void as Snoke. We will explore Guts and his journey to kill the God Hand members. And even if this wasn't the case, the God Hand are simply on a whole other level of power that makes even Apostles, for all their might, insignificant. Eventually, Guts is able to overcome his apprehension toward camaraderie, grateful for the companionship of his new group members. Final scenes - Guts, Casca, Rickert Isodro, Serpico, Farnese, Schierke, and the two elves decide to keep living/traveling together and not to live in Griffith's kingdom. While standing by, she watches in awe as Guts fights through his multiple injuries toward Femto, expressing her excitement at the idea of him joining her ranks. He simply can't fight a godlike creature. After all but Guts and Casca are dead, Griffith, now christened "Femto", emerges in his new form as the fifth member of the God Hand. I honestly think somehow guts n his team will use their beherit to bring the moonlight child? In this four part event, we discuss the four ways in which we think Guts will be able to defeat the God Hand. Only later through the God Hand’s manipulation, he finally let go. Femto crushed a dozen or so demons into a ball of gore just by clenching his fist, and maimed Zodd in a freaking dream. I think that will lead to the dragonslayer being able to kill the godhand. 6 years ago. one of the central aspects of this manga is guts' struggling; how he is pushing the limits of humanity to thrash against the inexorable flow of causality, locked in mortal warfare with a plethora of seemingly immortal foes who in turn serve extra-dimensional beings, one of which is his ultimate target. And then all of a sudden, a gigantic long mutant penis shoots out of Guts and stabs Void through his eye socket, killing him. That attempt failed tragically and Guts was pinned down again, only the apostles did so more roughly and punctured … The God Hand are summoned. But even if that wasn’t the case, Griffith still cared enough for Guts when they were both lifted up to the altair. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. We've already seen what happens when apostles try to oppose the God Hand, and we've seen that it cannot work. That would be crazy but im pretty sure its emperor gaiseric, if it was guts why didnt he go back and kill griffith before he became femto. Only later through the God Hand’s manipulation, he finally let go. i can accept there's a case to be made he has become monstrous (but not a fiend) to battle monsters, but guts is a man, first and foremost. In doing so, Guts had to break free from the grasp of the demons or apostles holding him down. I just cant see Berserk ending with "happily ever after". Two years after the Eclipse, Slan and the rest of the God Hand are summoned by the Count, who having been fatally wounded by Guts, requests new life. It's a little cliché (a lot cliché ) but maybe he will sacrifice himself instead of the ones he love and gain power and defeat God Hand. I don't think Griffith is redeemable honestly, even if he is I still think that for Guts killing him is more important than killing the rest of the god hand. Eventually, Guts is able to overcome his apprehension toward camaraderie, grateful for the companionship of his new group members. And then all of a sudden, a gigantic long mutant penis shoots out of Guts and stabs Void through his eye socket, killing him. Then when he has Griffith on his knees, maybe beat the shit out of him with his bare hands and give a speech about how despite being a godlike being Griffith was put down by an ordinary human (but that’s just the juvenile in me). While not innately magical, Guts' sword, the Dragonslayer, was recently shown to have become a cursed blade after absorbing the evil within so many apostles slayed by him; enabling it to kill creatures of a non-corporeal nature and even possibly kill, or at least, seriously injure members of the God Hand. Well we can get a much better guess of where the God Hand is in terms of power than we can the big heart of doom, because instead of "no things" we know "two things" about them 1. Only to have it shake ever so slightly before guts is tossed back. Outside of Falconia, there are still cities and countries that have enough people and soldiers to fend off the oncoming hordes of Apostles. Two years after the Eclipse, Slan and the rest of the God Hand are summoned by the Count, who having been fatally wounded by Guts, requests new life. Berserker. The blade can also somehow cut through a being made out of lightning. This is no Naruto. KiddDante 4 years ago #4. Guts, the main protagonist of the series, first saw the God Hand when they allowed Griffith to join them and had him reborn as Femto in exchange for all of the Band of … and 'You were the only one who ever made me forget my dream', I think he'll get closure, but still be defeated in the end. As he cannot truly harm the God Hand, and noting Griffith to not be among them, Guts decides to focus back on saving Casca from the mob who are intent on burning her at the stake. One wrong move and Guts might get absorbed in a void of nothingness for eternity. into their dimension, He may help them defeat the godhand :)))))), Just think the ending of every Inspector Gadget, in the end all you see is Guts putting a metal arm to those cats' heads like Dr. Claw, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. While not innately magical, Guts' sword, the Dragon Slayer, was recently shown to have become a cursed blade after absorbing the evil within so many apostles slayed by Guts; enabling it to kill creatures of a non-corporeal nature and even probably able to kill or at least seriously hurt the members of the God Hand. I also really want a redemption of sorts for Griffith, so a back-to-back badass fight with Guts and Griffith fighting alongside one another against the rest of the God Hand is something I’ve wanted for a long time. For fans of the manga Berserk and its adaptations. He would gain power to destroy them but in the end he will have to die and go to hell. i understand ganishka may have set a precedent, but his motivation was fear (guts is not scared - at least not to the point this governs him, i'd argue he exhibits mastery over his fear), and he had to evolve his already exceedingly powerful apostle form to consider fucking with the godhand - and he was powerless to griffith (and presumably would have been to the rest, too). I personally want Guts … He will destroy the god hand and the people stop worshipping them, thinking God is dead. Two factors can cause an intended sacrifice to be refused: Guts was refused as the Count's sacrifice on both of these, the first being that his importance to the God Hand was irrelevant; it was his importance to the Count that could have made him a viable sacrifice, and Guts was merely an … The god hand and the idea of evil may be the god that humans pray to, but they aren't actually the omnipotent gods as described in the bible. The elves, the Skull Knight, the mages and sorcerers, merrows, some Kushans...and so on. Possible way to kill the God hand. The Skull Knight possesses a sword technique whereby his sword is coated in the molten mass of countless ingested beherits stored within him, forming the Sword of Beheritsexpl 1 (喚び水の剣; literally "Sword of Pump-priming"; Dark Horse: Sword of Actuation). Guts was Griffiths slave, after guts lost his first fight to him be owed Griffith his life because Griffith spared him. Guts has been associated with so many beings that could possibly help him against the Godhand. While standing by, she watches in awe as Guts fights through his multiple injuries toward Femto, expressing her excitement at the idea of him joining her ranks. So this just struck me, you can summon the God hand with a behelit, which Guts is currently in possesion of. In other words, it's just a very very powerful magical being, and there are other magical beings in Berserk. Upon the late King Gaiseric possibly using the Behelit to sacrifice the civilians and disciples of his vast kingdom, could have wished to become all-powerful and thus, a member of the God Hand. Psn- MyNameIsKidd "The last man on earth heard a knock on his door." Guts makes use of this cord in situations where he cannot let go of the Dragon Slayer or he can't use his right hand by pulling the … The Godhand are too strong to be opposed by a tiny travelling party. He has the beast of darkness within him and he was born from a corpse. Press J to jump to the feed. is a 3D action beat 'em up game developed by Clover Studio and published by Capcom for the PlayStation 2. If anything I see Guts becoming something like the Skullknight, and even then his powers won't be enough to kill the God hand. Causality, Fate or even the other God Hand members could protect Griffith from being hurt by anyone, including Guts. I have a theory that the Behilit guts carries is meant for him. So we can assume Guts could be able to defeat his weaker, human incarnation, but we do not know how well Guts could perform against the godlike entity itself. what do you mean? During the process of Griffith's sacrifice and display of power after transforming in a God Hand demon, Guts made a Herculean effort to kill Griffith. They are very very very powerful magical beings that gained their power through evil and malice. They consistently try to avoid getting hit by Skull Knight. At this point in time in the manga Guts is still by far too weak to face off against any of them. So you know in the guardians of desire chapters when we're first introduced to the god hand and guts is climbing up the steps, bringing his sword down before its stopped by causality. Feb 15, 2014 #32 Zehahaha Registered User MH中毒 … While not innately magical, Guts' sword, the Dragonslayer, was recently shown to have become a cursed blade after absorbing the evil within so many apostles slayed by him; enabling it to kill creatures of a non-corporeal nature and even possibly kill, or at least, seriously injure members of the God Hand. Guts has got the backing of half the richest family on the continent, their kick ass half-bro/man-servant, the most rad noble to ever sail the open ocean, an actual witch, a whole kingdom of magic fairies, the backing of the oldest monster slayer/former supreme emperor of the world, a snot nosed punk with a bad attitude, and a trope of prostitutes. as i said, he would be powerless against them in this scenario, anyway. Obviously they'd need a shit ton of dudes to face the Godhand. I personally want Guts and Griffith’s battle to be like Batman vs Superman. I get the feeling that this has been implied for a long time. Griffith only needed to stand in front of Ganishka to bring the apostle emperor to his knees. But even if that wasn’t the case, Griffith still cared enough for Guts when they were both lifted up to the altair. i honestly don’t see it either, considering even if guts lives all of his life he still has the brand which we don’t know if void even can take it off, much less if he wants to. Where he himself is the sacrifice since he already has the brand? For fans of the manga Berserk and its adaptations. Because old one was closed. Yes, even Scheirke said that no one 'alone' could oppose Femto. also, it would not be in keeping with guts' character to willingly offer those who he fights to protect, to those whom he is protecting them from, in exchange for the power to theoretically fight the latter? The four kings Shierke was speaking with, are also insanely strong, and it's very likely that the thing stronger than those gods, is on the same level as the idea of evil. During the process of Griffith's sacrifice and display of power after transforming in a God Hand demon, Guts made a Herculean effort to kill Griffith. I dont remember when it was but they mentioned the dragonslayer being "baptised in apostle blood" or something along those lines. I think Guts should form a strategy designed specifically to put him down using all of the tools and powers he has at his disposal. Think about it. However it's highly unlikely Guts would do this given his now open dependence on them, so what other possible way is there for him to gain that much power? Guts killing the female apostle. He immediately descends down toward an ensnared Guts and motions a demon to bring Casca to him. As he cannot truly harm the God Hand, and noting Griffith to not be among them, Guts decides to focus back on saving Casca from the mob who are intent on burning her at the stake. He isn’t going to be sitting on his thumbs during the climax while Guts is doing all the fighting. This could explain why Slan had addressed Skull Knight as 'Your Highness' upon his arrival to save Guts from her grasp in the Troll's Den. Guts and the Band of the Hound got it in the bag. The fifth god hand member is cruel man with limited emotions, who can and will cause painful forms of revenge in the aftermath of things not going his way. The God Hand is summoned by the cry of the Count 's beherit, activated by the lethally wounded apostle in his bout with Guts. I'm pretty sure that now that the physical and astral worlds were merged by Griffith, it means the Godhand can be physically injured and possibly even be killed. This has happened 2896 times on Reddit since the launch of this bot. The same thing sort of happens in the eclipse right after guts cuts his own hand off. >Guts has made the incredible discovery that in Hell, demons die when they are killed >Griffith is on one end of hell, Guts the other, and their each wipe out half the demons until meeting in the middle >by this point Griffith has gone full Femto and the berserk armor is bonded to Guts' soul >the God Hand step in and try to stop this Guts then pulls a rope/cord that pulls his mechanical hand below the barrel which then leads to the powder igniting and then firing. Two years after her involvement in Eclipse, the Female Apostle has resumed her regular method of hunting. Capable of freeing a Heretic God from their myth if the location Guts is in is closely related to the God or Guts is in possession of an object connected to the God. User Info: KiddDante. Plot. Apostles are by nature enthralled by the God Hand; they cannot go against them in the same way we can't stop stop our hearts from beating. 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